Who's Who in the Fight Over the Future of Ohio's Public Unions

In March, Ohio GOP legislators passed Senate Bill 5, which drastically reduced the bargaining power of public employees' unions. Unionists and their Democratic allies gathered signatures to force a referendum on the law as Issue 2, on Nov. 8.

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Chas October 08, 2011 at 11:19 PM
Victor The layoffs were here before Issue 2 and it will continue to be here whether or not Issue 2 passes or fails. Why have we had the widespread political corruption if thing were as bad as they say. I am sorry you do not have a pension. However, you should not be upset and begrudge the younger firefighters the right to a decent wage. I wish that I could have enjoyed some on these benefits yet I do not want the young men and women to be treated unfairly out of jealousy. It is you who appears to be childish.
Victor Mooney October 08, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Chas---you and Robin must belong to the same tribe---- We are talking about Teachers and Public Employees---some large cities have begun to lay off--but you ain`t seen nuthin yet!
Chas October 08, 2011 at 11:27 PM
Do you know that one year I paid more taxes than Ford Motors and IT&T combined. At the time IT&T was the largest corporation in the world. The richest people in America (The richest1%) pay a lower rate of taxes than you do. If you have second home for a family member you cannot deduct the costs but the rich can deduct the costs of their vacation homes. So you continue to be brainwashed. I hope it is not too late when you realize the middle class is being taken to the cleaners and that GREED and SELFISHNESS is killing this country.
Chas October 09, 2011 at 05:05 AM
Listen Victor there are some good measures to Issue 2. It is almost impossible to get rid of a non-performing worker. Yet to say that collective bargaining and arbitration are the reason for Ohio's economic woes is absurd. With the money we spent in the Iraq war, we could have educated every college age youth in our country. We need to pull together and start overseeing our state government, organizing our communities and making our voices heard for implementation of sound fiscal policies by law makers and government administrators. Don't you find it interesting they lumped nurses into this measure. I have has major illnesses and I dud not know which would take me first the illnesses or the inept billing of my hospital.department Again they are greedily trying to wring out every dime from their patients.
Robin Anderson October 10, 2011 at 03:09 PM
You can't answere the points of debate because you got no facts to back up your argument, Vic, just your anti-union rhetoric. Apparently, that's easier for you than actually searching for some facts, facts that are & have been available online through various websites such as the DOL & SERB.


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