Ohio Republicans and Democrats Say Paul Ryan Pick Will Help Their Own Party

Ohio Republican and Democratic insiders surveyed by Patch both believe Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan as vice presidential candidate will be an advantage.

Republicans and Democrats in Ohio are both happy that Paul Ryan is Mitt Romney's Vice Presidential candidate, according to results of Patch's latest Red/Blue Northeast Ohio survey.

Republicans say that Paul, the architect of the GOP's budget vision, will strengthen Romney's conservative bona fides and provide an articulate vision for a conservative alternative to Barack Obama.

Meanwhile, Democrats say Ryan will allow Obama and allies to better pin Romney with wanting helping advance the cause of the rich over the poor and middle class and provide a strong attack line on the Medicare cuts envisioned in Ryan's budget.

Insiders from both parties say that Ryan will help galvanize their own party in Ohio, and were united in believing the pick will give voters, especially coveted undecided voters, a more clear choice.

"Most Democrats and Republicans have made up their minds," said one Democratic insider. "This is about independents and fear is a strong motivator."

Republican responses showed their excitement for their new second-in-command.

"Now let's get to WORK!" said one insider.

"Two men with a plan. How excellent! Maybe America has a chance of not becoming like Europe." said another Republican.

While responses from Democrats suggest they are eager to begin criticizing Ryan's -- and now Romney's -- ideas, especially concerning Medicare and lowering taxes for the wealthy.

"We have an aging population in Ohio," said a Democrat insider. "The people of Ohio do not want to lose Social Security benefits or have Medicare impaired. Ryan will push Ohioans to Obama."

"Obama's assertion that Romney is Robin Hood in reverse (giving to the rich and taking from vulnerable groups...the elderly, students, middle class) gains credence," said another.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? Will the choice of Paul Ryan help the Republicans or the Democrats?

EDITOR'S NOTE: Patch will be conducting Red Northeast Ohio and Blue Northeast Ohio surveys throughout the election eason in hopes of determining the true sentiment of Republicans and Democrats on the ground in Ohio.

Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republicans and Democrats. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all responded to this week's questions. Surveys were conducted between July 10 and July 16, 2012.
If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a weekly surveys that lasts just a few minutes, please email Senior Regional Editor Jean Dubail at jean.dubail@patch.com

James Thomas August 14, 2012 at 05:53 PM
If you are over 55 at this exact second, Vice President Ryan's plan will not affect your Medicare Benefits, PERIOD.
James Thomas August 14, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Only if you haven't read and understood his plan could Democrats believe this:"Obama's assertion that Romney is Robin Hood in reverse (giving to the rich and taking from vulnerable groups...the elderly, students, middle class) gains credence," said another.
Chris M. August 14, 2012 at 08:05 PM
I'm under 55 (barely) and I don't want to be shopping for insurance when I'm 80 - especially without the Affordable Care Act, which Romney wants to repeal. And who says plans can't change? If it frees up more money for tax cuts for the rich, do you really think Ryan would hesitate to throw the 55-65 year olds under the bus? Meanwhile, guys like Romney will be paying a 1% tax rate - thanks to the complete elimination of all taxes on capital gains and dividends. And what happens if Romney dies and we're stuck with 42-year-old Tea Party wunderkind Paul Ryan as our president. Will he stick with the Romney's supposedly more moderate agenda or double down on the viscous Ryan agenda?
Adam C. Miller August 14, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Just PRAY you aren't black (according to our esteemed Vice President): http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/14/biden-tells-va-supporters-romney-would-put-blacks-/print/#.UCqXi-8OTmA.facebook
Kay McIntosh August 14, 2012 at 09:46 PM
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/aug/14/paul-ryans-disappointing-reality/?opinionfreepress Another Obama.
Melissa Bysura August 14, 2012 at 10:12 PM
I'm an independent and my vote could have gone either way had Romney picked a more moderate running mate but in his attempt to prove to the Tea Party that he's truly conservative (which he isn't) he made a drastic VP choice. It'll be his undoing.
MZ August 15, 2012 at 01:28 AM
Does that mean you will be voting for the guy who wants to fundamentally transform America? The one who rammed Obamacare down everyone's throats without out a vote using senate procedural tricks and bribes (see cornhusker kickback)? That doesn't sound very moderate to me.
Laurie August 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM
No she wants to vote for the guy who said if unemployment is over 8% he will be a one term president. Melissa - wake up, honey, and smell the coffee! Things aren't getting better. Granted he had some work to do when he started but he also said that he would reform Medicare (hasn't) and social security (hasn't). Meanwhile, he is brewing beer in the White House instead of doing his job, meeting with the jobs commission and everything else. He is a professional campaigner full of empty promises. At least Romney and Ryan are bringing ideas to the table instead of pointing fingers in blame.
PJ Holmes August 15, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Mitt Romney's "cut and paste" campaign has been one of lies (not even of half-truths) and deflections. To find out who Mitt Romney is, or what he proposes, one has to rely on his past record, which is neither unifying or balanced (not beneficial to the growth or even the maintenance of the Middle Class), because he is either vague, or evasive, or because he refuses to reveal his current position. He is adept at avoiding the questions. The only straight answer that he has been able to give is that he will not release more than two years of tax returns. This is just another example of his disrespect for the American public to have the whole story, to be able to make informed decisions. And, that is the lest that we deserve.
MZ August 15, 2012 at 03:04 PM
I heard somewhere that a public official elected to a very high office has spent millions hiding his past associations, school records (grades, admittance, papers, etc...), and passport information. "This is just another example of his disrespect for the American public to have the whole story, to be able to make informed decisions. And, that is the lest that we deserve." Rumor has it that the middle class hasn't done very well in the past 3.5 years and that the gap between the rich and poor has significantly increased.
Glinda Smith August 15, 2012 at 03:40 PM
So we don't care what happens to anyone else, right? I buy my own health insurance on the open market and the idea of an elderly person with multiple health problems being able to buy affordable health insurance with good coverage on the open market is laughable. This is nothing but a money grab for private insurers - and Mr. Ryan gets lots of money from them.
Glinda Smith August 15, 2012 at 03:42 PM
He wants to vote for the guy who put in place a health care plan conceived and highly promoted by Republicans until a Democratic president put it in place. You are all such a bunch of hypocrites!
Melissa Bysura August 15, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Would I pay a bit more in taxes so little Sally and Timmy can go see a doctor when the get sick instead of having to go to an emergency room (which, don't kid yourself, we're already paying for)? You bet your ass! "I am my brothers keeper".... ever heard of it?? It's the disgusting greed of the 1% that is continuing to collapse our economy so by all means, let them buy the White House in November, what's the worst that could happen? DUH!!! And Laurie (no last name), YOU WAKE UP! They're ALL professional campaigners!! Is this your first election season???
MZ August 15, 2012 at 05:29 PM
Melissa, go ahead and pay a little more. Or better yet, donate to someone in need. Or even better, actually be your brother's keeper and seek out those that are less fortunate and impact their lives directly. Why wait for a federal buracracy to do it for you? Glinda, please explain?
Shripathi Kamath August 16, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Romney has favored a constitutional amendment that says that no one can be president unless he or she has run a business in the private sector for three years. So why did he pick a VEEP who, if the amendment passes, will not be eligible? In other ways too, Ryan's voting record is pretty much like Obama's: http://www.rlc.org/2012/08/11/the-paul-ryan-record/ It is almost as if Romney wants Obama to be his VEEP. Someone who supports RomneyCare.
Gary Reynolds August 21, 2012 at 04:51 PM
How can anyone say Romney has been withholding information? that is the story of Muslim Obama's life. He could have solved a lot of his problems by coming forward with his 'real' birth certificate. You know he is an avowed Muslim, and also coming out for Gay Marriage... Come on America, wake up and see what his happening under his Socialist watch...
Gary Reynolds August 21, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Shripathi, are you a Citizen of the US?
Dan Marol August 21, 2012 at 06:11 PM
MZ, are you on social security or medicare? If you are (or when you are eligible), I sure hope you are not accepting these benefits by the way you rant against government programs. It reminds me of the sign some Tea Partier was holding up during a rally that said "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" Chris M. - I agree with you. When I'm 65, I sure don't want to be worrying if my voucher is going to cover my health insurance that I hope to find out on the open market. However, the CBO estimates that it would cost the average senior $6,200 under this "voucher" plan.
MZ August 21, 2012 at 07:19 PM
I am on neither SS nor Medicare. The Vegas odds makers (I just checked) say that neither program will be solvent when I reach retirement. Do keep in mind that these "benefits" are taken from me against my will with the threat of fines or imprisonment. If there was the ability to opt out, I would jump on it. For some reason I think I can do a better job managing my own money than Washington can. Call me crazy!
Dan Marol August 21, 2012 at 07:46 PM
All kinds of taxes are taken from us against our will, too. While you may be smart enough to know how to invest your money for retirement, not everyone is (or has the means to). If you don't believe in any safety nets at all, and you just want everyone to fend for themselves, then we have a society like some countries in South America. The minority with the money, and the majority being the poor. That's when you'll need to build electric fences around your house and hire your own security to take you to the store. But, at least you won't have to pay into any social programs against your will!
Gary Reynolds August 21, 2012 at 08:38 PM
PJ, are you a Tax & Spend Liberal Democrat?
MZ August 21, 2012 at 09:10 PM
All kinds of taxes are taken from us against our will. See Dan, we agree on something. The problem with SS is that it is no longer a "safety net" it has become many peoples sole source of retirement income. The government incentivizes people to not save for a rainy day, to not be prepared, to not try to be self-reliant. You lose your job, don't worry about not having saved a rainy day fund, you can get unemployment forever (99+weeks). Time to retire and you haven't saved or invested, no worries, the government will send you a check. I will concede that there are those that have struggles through no fault of their own and need a hand up. Will you concede that it is becoming the American way to milk the system for all it's worth? Will you concede that these programs have morphed into something that they weren't intended to be? Are things so bad that over 100 million people really need government assistance? If they are, aren’t we already well on our way to becoming South Africa with the current systems in place? When do we reach the tipping point?
John McMillan August 22, 2012 at 01:08 AM
Hopefully, Patch will remove all the racist statements you have been making. They really are despicable.
Brian Andrews August 22, 2012 at 01:41 AM
Chris, Ryan's plan allows seniors who wish to remain with the traditional MC product. The reality is that the program is headed for insolvency. The irony is that Republicans are calling for means testing the program by requiring wealthy seniors to pay more while poor seniors would receive larger subsidies. The Democrats are left defending giving "fat cat wealthy seniors" benefits they don't need, short changing the poor and precipitating the collapse of the entire program. Well done.
Colter95 November 04, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Wrong on the economy, wrong on Benghazi, and wrong on the auto bailout... The time for real change is NOW!! http://www.policymic.com/articles/14285/obama-lies-obama-auto-bailout-did-not-rescue-detroit http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/ http://twitchy.com/2012/10/23/obama-lies-about-romneys-position-on-auto-bailouts-conservatives-hit-back/ http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/10/26/letterman-slams-obama-auto-bailout-lie-followed-maddow-parroting-same- Romney/Ryan 2012
Colter95 November 04, 2012 at 04:23 PM
I saw Obama yesterday claiming the new job numbers are proof that his policies are working and that we are in an economic recovery... Fact is, that is not the truth, or even close to the truth... First, the unemployment rate ticked up to 7.9% and the year-to-date monthly average of 157,000 payroll jobs is barely enough to keep up with population growth -- much less make up for the 8 million jobs lost during the Great Recession. Second, the so-called real unemployment rate (U6) remains elevated at 14.6%, albeit down from 14.7% the prior month. Similarly, the labor participation rate is at 63.8%, up from its multi-decade low but still incredibly weak. Third, average hourly earnings fell a penny in October and average hours worked fell to 34.4 from 34.5 in September. Stagnant wages means "we're not generating income," Reinhart says. "That's a problem in terms of the durability of an economic expansion, which is usually fueled by consumption. To get consumption you've got to generate income." Also, just look at your checkbook. We are paying a lot more for everything now than we did in 2008. The price of gas has doubled. At the same time, wages have gone down, and that's if you're lucky to have a job. In 2008, 25 banks went out of business. In 2012, 48 banks have gone out of business. Almost double the amount. Does that sound like recovery to you? Don't believe the Obama lies!! Romney/Ryan 2012
Colter95 November 04, 2012 at 04:23 PM
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