Barack Obama Wins Ohio

Lori November 7, 2012 at 07:44 am

Why are you shocked? The 47 per cent voted.

Lisa Gaines November 7, 2012 at 10:58 am

fact is that the people did not believe that Romney would have delivered any of that. This country is coming out of the recession thanks to the positive policies put forth by this administration. They are creating jobs and people will have comprehensive healthcare. LEave if you don't like it but dont obstruct it!

Dave November 7, 2012 at 12:29 pm

I don't believe that either of these guys deserve to lead this country, nor do I really think it would matter who won the election. I voted for Richard Duncan, a candidate from Aurora, because I cannot support either major candidate. But, as I sit here this morning, I believe that my family is better off with Obama as President.
As to all your questions, months of campaigning couldn't get them answered, so the answers are not going to come from this conversation. I will address some of them, giving my opinion, not what I believe either candidate would/could do. The rise in insurance premiums has been going on for years, and until someone takes on the insurance industry to revise the system, nothing will change. Obamacare did nothing to address this which was my disappointment with healthcare reform. I do not consider Obamacare as Nationalized Healthcare because I can still have my current health insurance plan, I can go to my same doctor, and I do not have to get on a list to receive a procedure or have care rationed. In the end all these things may happen, either from the health care delivery system, the government, or the insurance industry, but I do not forsee this happening. I am a small business owner, but I am small enough (e.g., less than 50 employees) that I do not fall under the Obamacare requirements. If I was in that situation, I would consider having to reduce staff or curtail expansion to pay for those costs. It will be interesting to see what the imapct is.

Dan Marol November 7, 2012 at 12:38 pm

If you don't know Obama's plan by now, go on his website.

Ed Fisher November 7, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Seeking answers to such weighty national questions from casual posters on Patch clearly says that you are being argumentative and spiteful. Just an observation.

Murphy-Solon November 7, 2012 at 12:48 pm

I believe the most transformative dynamic of the Affordable Healthcare Act has yet to be mentioned by either party. Nial Ferguson proffered the theory in his book "The History of Money" that now that our Industrial period is over, Americans have to return to the entrepreneurial environment of the past to compete in a global marketplace. I agree with that theory but add that Americans must have the economic means to do so. The AHA provides for state exchanges where Americans can go to buy into health insurance at group rates. How many of you know people who work at dead end jobs solely for the health insurance? I believe the ADA will offer Americans an independence to chase their entrepreneurial dreams at exactly the right time in American history.

Dave November 7, 2012 at 01:07 pm

A friend and I were just talking last week about how people are going to go back to working for themselves as in the days of the farmer, blacksmith, general store, etc. Except the businesses will be those needed for the 21st century and will be on a national/global scale rather than the scale of a village. Entrepreneurs are the way of the future. Although this does not mean the death of the global corporations/banks. Good point about the health exchanges. Access to adequate health insurance will be important since the village doctor is not coming back. I think everyone is scared of the unknown on how these will work, so they get rejected. It also is not easy when you have a number of the states saying they will not participate or are dragging their feet in getting the plans filed. No wonder everyone is against them.

Murphy-Solon November 7, 2012 at 01:19 pm

Good points Dave, when the Industrial period began Americans moved to the cities and generations became used to a weekly paycheck. Now high tech manufacturing requires fewer workers. It used to be that pensions shackled workers to their employers. Now it's health care insurance that inhibits American ingenuity. Why would an insurance company offer an individual policy to a 50 year old? They couldn't charge that 50 year old enough in premiums to cover what it will ultimately cost them. If longevity requires us to work longer, then we need 21st century tools to deal with this new world. When ADA moves from theory to action in 2014, I believe the American people will embrace it. Recalcitrant Republican legislatures will quietly acquiesce.

Robert Dale DotsonInstrumental1 November 7, 2012 at 01:46 pm

Yo boy

Joseph Robert November 7, 2012 at 02:14 pm

CONGRATULATIONS to all of the millions of smart Ohio residents who voted for
Obama-Biden!!!! We did it!!!!! We crushed extremism, racism, voter suppression, anonymous money, hatred of minorities -- with sound ideas, moderation and truth! Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney can now go shopping for new shirts at COSTCO, and Mitt can work on his car elevator in La Jolla. LMAO. Yippee! Hopefully the country can now coalesce around OBAMA-BIDEN, and not work (like Sen. McConnell had done) mostly for the benefit of one party or another!!! Hoorah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hoorah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We WON BIG-TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U - S - A!! U-S-A!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack Kelly November 7, 2012 at 03:08 pm

Typical uneducated, whiny response from an uneducated Republican (Lincoln66). Love to ignore facts and try to rewrite history. There is actually a plan by BHO. You'd have to actually read it (that is IF you can read).
The modern-day Republican Party has just been rendered irrelevant. And THEY brought it on themselves. Unless you run to the likes of what Rush, Hannity, Beck et al tell you for "comfort." The Republican Party paid DEARLY for kissing the backside of the Teabaggers and running nutjobs for Senate seats this time around (like Akin & Mourdock). And many of those freshman 'baggers got kicked to the curb. Michelle Bachmann BARELY got re-elected, and she was one of riders in the Republican Clown Car running for President (although I believe it goes to an automatic recount because it was so close). Contrary to what bitter-old-man and racist Mitch McConnell (whose days are numbered anyway) said after BHO won last night, it is now up to the GOP to reach out -- NOT the other way around. The Republican Party is nothing but smoldering ashes right now. They now have another 4 years to get their act together. Or, if they continue down this road of being obstructionists and pandering to the extreme loons, they're going to be in the same position in 2016 as they were today and in 2008. Losers!

Murphy-Solon November 7, 2012 at 03:16 pm

Though a little more colorful than is necessary in victory Jack Kelly, I think your analysis is spot on. John Boehner and the established Republicans should use this historical loss to reign in Eric Cantor and the Tea Party Caucus. The changing demographics in this country demand a Republican reassessment.

Jack Kelly November 7, 2012 at 03:34 pm

I have always been colorful and outspoken, but save your PC-ness.
The Tea Party is irrelevant. Joe "Deadbeat Dad" Walsh, Allen West and a few other 'baggers were voted out after only one term. Boehner & Cantor don't have a choice. Their platform of "Whatever BHO is for, we're against" will no longer work. The GOP can spin this anyway they want, but the fact is, they got spanked -- especially in the Senate. They lost 2 seats by running loons (Akin & Mourdock). The action (drama) to watch will be the Senate because there are rumblings within the GOP that they want to see Mitch McConnell seriously challenged in '14. Don't be surprised to see some Senate GOP members try to go around McConnell (like the House GOP was doing to Boehner before). I expect to see some GOP members to start pushing back against the loons & loudmouths of Rush & Hannity & the likes -- along with some at Fox News Channel -- since the party is in ashes. The GOP has no identity and no "leader." The GOP needs to take Laura Ingraham's advice from a couple of months ago since they lost. And that's to shut the party down and rebuild it.

R Carr November 7, 2012 at 03:41 pm

Interesting how short the memory can be. It really didn't take long for the for folks to forget 911 and the realization of American vulnerablilty, our anger, and our resolve to set things right. At the time George Bush stood before a galvanized congress and populace and said, this act would not stand, and we will hunt the terrorists down.
At the time I thought, "I don't think the country has the heart for it," because generally people haven't the heart to do hard and dangerous things to sacrifice themselves until the task is done. When push comes to shove we will choose personal short term comfort over long term goals for all. Consequently, we went after the terroists and the countries that harbor them, which was and is quite expensive. Back in the day, I learned in basic economics that you can't have both guns and butter. We are in this mess because Americans have not supported the ideal Bush declared and to which we signed on. This isn't Bush's fault, its ours. We don't have the heart to be a great nation for we haven't the resolve to sacrifice for others. We are not as committed to OUR causes as we are to our personal happiness. There have been two maybe three wars that we've aproached appropriately, and in each case men,women and children freely gave of themselves for the cause. So, when it's said and done, sacrifice either willing or unwilling will rule the day as the issues are not who won the election, but does this country have the heart to be free.

Murphy-Solon November 7, 2012 at 03:42 pm

Look Jack, I understand where your passion comes from. I too have had a big problem with the extremes we've seen on the right. The worst thing the Dems in Washington can do at this time is to spike the football. Politicians receive their marching orders from their districts. If the Dems fuel the fire, Cantor and the Tea Party will be strengthened in their power struggle with Boehner and his faction. Letting the Republicans fight it out amongst themselves is not being PC as you put it. It's just smart strategy,

Dave November 7, 2012 at 07:15 pm

Well said.

Keith Best November 7, 2012 at 10:31 pm

What were the people of Ohio thinking? I've worked hard to live the American Dream. For 40 years I have tried to remain self-sufficient and live a good life. Am I a chump and a sucker for doing it this way? Should I have been a moocher? It looks like a lot of America has become a nation of moochers. Romney was right about the 47%. Well, I give up....I want an Obamaphone.

Keith Best November 7, 2012 at 10:32 pm

While in the meantime the Democrats are embracing Communism.

Murphy-Solon November 7, 2012 at 10:33 pm

You're a joke

jay smith November 7, 2012 at 11:37 pm

Bush? Really?LMAO.
Please explain EXACTLY how Bush caused this mess. You mean the Bush that had the Lib controlled house and senate? Dude, you need to get a clue.

jay smith November 7, 2012 at 11:39 pm

You are shocked??
When 50% of the country wants free "stuff" just what do you expect?

jay smith November 7, 2012 at 11:43 pm

Ya, we think it is funnier than he!! he was re-elected with all those plans he laid out for his second term. Oh....... what plans?
Maybe some of you libs can enlighten us? Are they the same plans that put double the amount of Americans on food stamps in the last 4 years?

Amo Probus November 8, 2012 at 12:34 am

I feel sorry for Obama.
He inherited a greater mess this time than the one Bush left behind! Who will he blame this time?

MZ November 8, 2012 at 01:14 am

Amo, great comment! I wish I would have thought of it.

Joyce Wells November 8, 2012 at 03:46 am

Your tax dollars?? Don't you mean China's money? When will people wake up and see what is going on? You care so deeply about taking care of people, but who, may I ask, is paying for this? The fact is that it is not any of the people working today. We are so in debt that we are ruining the future of all of our children. Blaming Bush is not changing the fact that Obama has had plenty of opportunities to improve things. I am worried about the future, and apparently none of the people who voted for Obama can see past the moment. I am no rich ultra conservative, just a person with common sense who understands that enough is enough!

Joyce Wells November 8, 2012 at 03:51 am

Just because someone disagrees with someone does not make them a hater. I am not ever going to be silent. Let's see what Obama does with HIS economy now? Or, will it be forever Bush's? A true leader is someone who steps up and takes responsibility which is something I have NEVER seen from Obama.

Joyce Wells November 8, 2012 at 03:59 am

The joke is that Obama was re-elected with the pitiful way he has governed. You call other people a joke? You are a sanctimonious, self-important bigot. Anyone that disagrees with your ideas MUST be prejudiced. Really, those kind of arguments should be left for children. Kool-Aid anyone? Oh, that's right you have already drank it all.

Keith Best November 8, 2012 at 11:55 am

The headlines should be screaming "Millions of Americans duped again".
Axelrod and the Chicago gang ran one of the sleaziest campaigns ever defining Romney as something he was not. What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Sadly, we will get more of the same from a president who was in over his head from day one. The Obamabots swallowed their lies, hook, line and sinker.

Joyce Wells November 8, 2012 at 10:32 pm

Exactly, Keith. That Albert Einstein quote is right on the money. What money is that? Oh, you know, the money we keep borrowing from China. The money that people expect to buy them things that they are "entitled to." What happened to a strong work ethic and working for what you want and need. The founding fathers didn't even want non-landowners to have the vote. I used to question that and being a female, the fact that women have had the right to vote for less than 100 years was a concern of mine. Yet, when the people who "have not" now outnumber the people that "have", keeping in mind that we only "have" because we have worked for it, there seem to be numerous problems which are completely compounded by the fact that this is an entitlement society. I have been on food stamps and had a medical card for roughly one year and trust me, I NEVER want to go back to that. People need help from time to time, but when it becomes a way of life, we see the end of America as we know it.

James Thomas November 16, 2012 at 05:21 pm

You're not colorful Kelly
You're PC Grey.